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3/2 WR。。太强悍了 、

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发表于 2009-3-2 10:32:00 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 pepedog 于 2009-3-2 10:34 编辑
2 of 007's classical demos had been anticipated to break
sry,i m late to choose them for challenging

hi thopa
if a WR dont according to the time showed on hourmeter,i think it s not suitable.
gr ...
SiMen.ivanbasso 发表于 2009-3-2 09:58


thopa也没说不重视地图里的计时器...只不过有例外...
例如这次的1337...地图bug..




顺带我稍微翻译一下下面xj说的新规则
再下面有原文

下面那段英文大概意思就是:
1.如果原wr的纪录的"秒数"跟真实时间的秒数不一样,那该wr可以被刷
例子:clintmo_bhoptoon_Cordyline_00:36.rar, 真实时间: 00:37.3280
如果你录了一个真实时间00:36:xxxx,而游戏计时器也是00:36的话,恭喜你,这个wr合法
2.如果原wr的纪绿"秒数"跟真实时间一样,即使你录了一个真实时间比他快一秒的,也不算数
例子:kz_exodus_ez_BupTuk_0231, 真实时间:02:31:9995
如果你录了个真实时间02:30:xxxx 但游戏的计时器是02:31的话,那这个就不算数
所以你要录一个0230的游戏时间
3.比原来的demo快0.1秒的全不算数



*Neither zhady's or mgD's record time was shown in usual field in fps death or demolyser, so I had to manually check them. zhady beat mgD's old time by more than a minute, so there were no use to check it any further. Now mgD recorded a demo, and the time isn't showing ingame or in the field it's supposed to be shown in fps death or demolyser. So there are two ways to check it. The slowest and most inaccurate way is to use viewdemo, and paus the demo at the pressing of the startbutton, and then also by the pressing of the stopbutton, and then subtract the two times - which gave me the final results +- a few hundreds (for both mgD's and zhady's demo). Although I got zhadys time exactly correct, which I'm proud of.

See this picture: zhady vs mgd.
zhady: 05:18:27
mgD: 05:16:59 (+- some hundreds)

Second quick calculation from fps death. Mouseclick where the blue start line is, and mouse click where the blue stop line is. Then the time is shown in the top left view. Picture of time check in fps death. Fps death or demolyser uses the same time, the HL engine time, so; Yes - It's accurate, and now you all know where fps death and demolyser gets the 'record time' from, so it shouldn't be a problem to understand the stuff below.

Youtube, made by mgD:
mgD vs zhady on kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[+1337]

In the record list, there are MANY demos like the randomly selected examples below. The ingame kz timer doesn't show the record time (HL engine time) time since it's not as quick and accurate, and that's why some demos have these kinds of times:
clintmo_bhoptoon_Cordyline_00:36.rar, real time: 00:37.3280
dg_winterclimb_brian_00:58.rar, real time: 00:59.0250
kz_midnight_SuPa_01:06.rar, real time: 01:07.0442
cg_coldbhop_v2_bibo_00:56.rar, real time: 00:57.2734
cg_islands_soulftw_00:59.rar, real time: 01:00:2087

Now imagine that you made these times below - Where the ingame timer and the record time is showing the same time. With 'same time' i mean 'same second'.
clintmo_bhoptoon_thopa_0036.rar, real time: 00:36.3280
dg_winterclimb_thopa_0058.rar, real time: 00:58.0250
kz_midnight_thopa_0108.rar, real time: 01:08.1240
cg_coldbhop_v2_thopa_0056.rar, real time: 00:56.2734
cg_islands_thopa_0059.rar, real time: 00:59:2087

Earlier I wouldn't replace such demos, but due to mgD's demo on kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[+1337] I had to make this change,. This also opens up for people to beat demos like in the above example. At the moment XJ can't show the record time on the website (needs extensive re-coding), and alot of extra administrative work, so you must check the demos yourself if you want to beat a particular time, and see if the ingame and record time is not on the same seconds. Use demolyser of fps death. If fps death or demolyser isn't showing the time, you'd need to count it yourself, manually. But it's shown in atleast 95% of the demos.

This does not open up for beating any demo by 0.1 seconds. And you cannot beat a demo where the seconds on the ingame timer is the same as the seconds on the record time.

If you take kz_exodus_ez_BupTuk_0231.dem as an example:
0231 ingame time, 151.9995 (02:31:9995) record time. If you record the same map, and get 0231 ingame, and record time 151.8xxxx I will not replace BupTuk's demo. You must get 0230 to beat it. This way we use both kreedz kz timer as supposed, but also eDarks record time, so the demo time will show the same seconds ingame, as "irl".

I hope you all understand, and accept this. I can't see another way to handle these kind of demos

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发表于 2009-3-2 10:33:48 | 显示全部楼层
cg_arizonabhop这图极限能到多少?

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发表于 2009-3-2 10:38:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 pepedog 于 2009-3-2 10:56 编辑
cg_arizonabhop这图极限能到多少?
defrog 发表于 2009-3-2 10:33


估计很极限了./.....
这次一刷就是2秒.......
***的以前mgd刷这图我以为都刷到不能再刷了...
估计如要再省几秒只能在攀岩部份着手了...


clintmo_bhopriver 这图直接无言了....

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发表于 2009-3-2 11:00:35 | 显示全部楼层
估计很极限了./.....
这次一刷就是2秒.......
***的以前mgd刷这图我以为都刷到不能再刷了...
估计如要再省几秒只能在攀岩部份着手了...


clintmo_bhopriver 这图直接无言了....
pepedog 发表于 2009-3-2 10:38


我觉得0140就差不多了,没想到又刷了2秒,攀岩部分本就不多,好像挖掘的也差不多了。。。

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发表于 2009-3-2 11:01:39 | 显示全部楼层
KeltA这个哥们的bhop风格我很喜欢

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发表于 2009-3-2 11:26:42 | 显示全部楼层
kzcn_brickblock
快在多连
并没有走新捷径...

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-3-2 11:43:39 | 显示全部楼层
新捷径挺简单的 、 过了好几次了

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发表于 2009-3-2 11:53:11 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 fantasist 于 2009-3-2 11:54 编辑

chrizZo
kzcn_brickblock done in 04:06 ( 04:18 007 )    chrizZo对这类Block图比较有把握,连跳很凶猛。007现在只剩5个WR了
kz_chinabl0ck_ez done in 03:47 ( 03:52 007 )    007两张chinablock全丢掉了,sKiCg出手把它刷回来吧

KeltA
cg_arizonabhop done in 01:38 ( 01:40 KeltA )    上传记录里有个1:39,居然把极限又推进了两秒,实在太牛B了

w1zz
kz_kzsca_pyramid_ez done in 04:29 ( 04:33 Dujes )    我觉得ez版难度跟hard版没多少区别……发布后不怎么热门,高手们都没兴趣,给了新人w1zz机会

BupTuk
kz_exodus_ez done in 02:31 ( 02:33 kunqui )    查了一下,此人就是前一段时间刷掉dinocanyon的那位,不慌不忙的弹跳十分有特色。敢向kunqui开炮,勇气可嘉,小心惹毛kunqui下期就把dinocanyon轻松搞掉……

mgD*
kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[+1337] done in 05:16 ( 05:16 zhady )    阴谋论:thopa又开始炒作了……demo本身嘛,mgD综合水平跟zhady有很大差距,恐怕也比不上只刷-1337的Flibo。捷径处失误两次,最后爬房子时非常犹豫,计时器前的梯子处还差点一掉到底,让人大跌眼镜。但也有亮点,苦练之下那段尖尖的bhop居然一次通过,非常犀利,靠着这里的出色发挥稍微快zhady一点。
dg_insane done in 07:39 ( 07:52 7D )    mgD还是比较全面的,刷起大图来一点都不含糊,流畅度很高,动作也比7D好看多了;) 上传记录显示棒子也出手了,但刷的不多,最终没能抢到

kunqui
kz_kzdk_droughthop done in 02:31 ( 02:32 omilo )    只刷1秒比较水,bhoplj处失误了两次,最后的场景没走左旋lj捷径,一步步弹上去的。感觉非常轻松随意,难道kunqui想抛砖引omilo出来跟他战?
clintmo_pentablock done in 04:03 ( 04:05 mgD )    有一个失误,最后推桶直接落向终点省了好几秒啊
kz_mathland done in 02:32 ( 02:33 mgD )    kunqui纠缠不清,mgD要哭了。不过最后一个场景还是有个地方落点没控制好,算是留下了机会吧

akkord
kz_space2 done in 01:17 ( 01:18 kunqui )    对这张图不熟悉,攀岩处似乎多走了一个捷径。终点前痿掉了,kunqui如果愿意的话肯定能刷回来

Flibo
kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[-1337] done in 03:27 ( 03:34 dadadaXD )    Flibo在梯子、捷径、最后的房子三处过得很流畅,轻松刷掉7秒,找回了面子

StormZz
clintmo_longjumper[e] done in 01:02 ( 01:03 StormZz )    自从XJ认为起点HJ25x捷径无效后这条路线就归StormZz了。有空自刷这种冷门图为什么不出手爆一下kunqui的菊花呢,难道认为wildwesthop已经足够了?

mjuuh
clintmo_bhopriver done in 00:20 ( 00:22 StormZz )    记得刚接触KZ时玩过这张图,觉得很恶心,今天再看还是恶心……

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发表于 2009-3-2 12:11:54 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈`     zhady 郁闷了

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牛B啊,007好可怜
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