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发表于 2010-1-2 06:54:51
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本帖最后由 sex 于 2010-1-2 06:56 编辑
那个啥。。对话太长了。。就没复制。
既然你诚信。诚意的问了。。。那我就大发慈悲的告诉你: xxxxxx
Statement by  S3eKeR:
S3eKeR: okay hello
[XJ] ndR`: hello back
S3eKeR: i left on irc , so , i have quitted kz already and i feel like bad for doing this
S3eKeR: me , avatar , nfs cheated our demos.
[XJ] ndR`: ok
S3eKeR: we used an illegal plugin that changes the speed of the knife/usp for better prestrafe/distance
[XJ] ndR`: first of all, that's better that you come and confess
S3eKeR: i did this because avatar and nfs said if i ever get caught now to say about them
S3eKeR: and i felt so dissapointed and removed them and went to confess.
S3eKeR: not*
S3eKeR: the plugin was made by NFS and proton
[XJ] ndR`: who's this proton?
S3eKeR: i had the idea of making this after i was was so suspicious on kelta for this.
S3eKeR: i dont know
S3eKeR: i had the idea of making this after i was was so suspicious on kelta for this.
S3eKeR: i dont know
S3eKeR: he said so
S3eKeR: then we got it to work and even get stats on it
S3eKeR: we didnt use to high values , 251 or even 252 knifespeed was enough to gain kinda big advantage.
S3eKeR: then i sent the plugin to avatar
S3eKeR: he did couple of 256 and finally decided to upload xj like we did
S3eKeR: so what more to add ndr , i told the story
S3eKeR: what else to say , what's neccesary
[XJ] ndR`: right
S3eKeR: just say me what information u need
[XJ] ndR`: You got nothing else to add?
S3eKeR: hmm
S3eKeR: i think kelta is using this
[XJ] ndR`: did one of you give the plugin to anybody else?
S3eKeR: no
[XJ] ndR`: why do you think that?
S3eKeR: hey can share it after they get banned tho
S3eKeR: i can help making anticheat of it
[XJ] ndR`: could you give me this plugin?
S3eKeR: im not good in coding anyways , i can just give the plugin , and tell it hows it works
S3eKeR: okay let me see if i still have it
S3eKeR: just the plugin
S3eKeR: or whole addons?
S3eKeR: by the way we got it to work with different values
S3eKeR: even on 260 speed of knife we would get stats
S3eKeR: i dont havae the latest version of it cuz i quitted kz
S3eKeR: but i have the first one
[XJ] ndR`: I'd like it please
S3eKeR: hold up
S3eKeR: but just a little question ndr
S3eKeR: do u think anybody had any chance detecting this?
[XJ] ndR`: tell me
[XJ] ndR`: The thing I was going to tell you at the end of our conversation is that
[XJ] ndR`: we had already busted you all
S3eKeR: lol is it
S3eKeR: no bullshit right?
[XJ] ndR`: I'm not lying
S3eKeR: so i guess u dont need the plugin anymore?
[XJ] ndR`: I'm still going to take it
S3eKeR: well my last thing at the end of our conversation would be merry christmas and happy holidays.
[XJ] ndR`: yup of course for me too, but I want to keep contact with you, in order to explain you what's gonna happen
S3eKeR: i found the addons
S3eKeR: how did u busted us btw
S3eKeR: edark still cant detect sidespeed man
S3eKeR: and he can detect plugins
S3eKeR: that's amazing
[XJ] ndR`: last question
[XJ] ndR`: why did you say that about keltA?
S3eKeR: i started thinking of this
S3eKeR: when i saw his clintmo_longjump(er)
S3eKeR: i think wr
S3eKeR: he was going to fast and what was in my mind was the speed of the knife.
S3eKeR: then i asked nfs if theres a way of creating this
S3eKeR: and somehow , he did it in 20 mins.
[XJ] ndR`: so you think he cheats with the same kind of cheat?
S3eKeR: yes
S3eKeR: kelta is not using it on ljs
S3eKeR: tell this to edark
S3eKeR: try to check kelta demos and check of bj prestrafe
[XJ] ndR`: but with your words and the plugin you're going to give me, we can check his demos.
S3eKeR: if the speed of knife is higher
S3eKeR: also prestrafe can pass 299
S3eKeR: i'll try
S3eKeR: i can also help at sidespeed
S3eKeR: -link-
S3eKeR: heres the addons i still have
S3eKeR: which has the plugin on it
S3eKeR: amx_knifespeed.amxx
S3eKeR: this is the plugin
[XJ] ndR`: thank you
S3eKeR: no problem man
S3eKeR: i realised i did wrong for a game
S3eKeR: i took it to serious and i only realised after i quitted
[XJ] ndR`: I understand
S3eKeR: but i want to tell u something
S3eKeR: i want any of us get the same punishment
S3eKeR: even if i confessed it
Statement by  Avatar:
Avatar: ok
Avatar: at first
Avatar: u know nfs or?
 : nope
Avatar: k
Avatar: hes a jumper and coder
Avatar: let me tell teh whole story be4 us ay anything k?
Avatar: say*
: ok
Avatar: good!
Avatar: it should not end like this!
Avatar: it was not planed!
Avatar: everybody is flaming about cheaters and guys who apper with uberskills from nowhere!
Avatar: so he coded a plugin
Avatar: knifespeed!
Avatar: u know it now
Avatar: ok
Avatar: and he asked me, if i could use it for xj
Avatar: becouse all ppl say that edark is not as good in detecting things as all think
Avatar: so i agreed
Avatar: becouse many ppl know taht 256 would be easy 4 me
Avatar: or poss 4 me
Avatar: we anted to see if edark is able to detect plugins.
Avatar: becosue he think that many ppl on xj use things liek this
Avatar: that changing runspeed!
Avatar: i told u be4 that i know from nothing becouse we dont wanted to close this so earyl
Avatar: so i did 256 in like 2 minutes!
Avatar: and posted it
Avatar: to see if edark detects this
Avatar: the problem was that i sent my addins to s3eker without thinking
Avatar: that i have this plugin in it
Avatar: and he asked
Avatar: for it too than
Avatar: so we took him in
Avatar: so we posted our demos to xj
Avatar: wen wanted to see how far we can go with this until edark notices this
Avatar: thats why s3eker sued 253 knifespeed and i 251
Avatar: used*
Avatar: but we didnt even thought that eark would detect this so fast, so it was too l8
Avatar: to say that its was a test to faker or somebody becosue he del8ed me from list be4 i could explain
Avatar: we w8ted until the right moment
Avatar: and after u posted ur massage to me, we knew it was
Avatar: it was a "bad idea" to do this and we know this, we will give u the plugin (including the .sma code and the ljstats) to show that we never wanted to so something bad and that we naver wanted to damage somebody or something!
Avatar: i hope u can understand the situation, in that we are involved now, and we really never wabted to do soemthign abd to anybody!
Avatar: but now we have to tell this to someone or we wont be able to do!
Avatar: l8ter
Avatar: so we choosed u
Avatar: becouse we know that u maybe could understand this!
Avatar: ok!
Avatar: ill send u the plugin link now
Avatar: im ready now
Avatar: -link-
Avatar: here is the knifespeed plugin!
Avatar: :/
: ok
Avatar: we never wanted to do anything bad! seriously!
Avatar: thats why i denied that i was using it be4!
Avatar: i ahd to talk to the other guys!
Avatar:
Avatar: i hops u can understand this
Avatar: and we know that this was wrong!
Avatar: and we apologize for the problems that we made
Avatar: !
Avatar: if u need to know something about this plugin, just ask me or nfs!
Avatar: better nfs
Avatar: becouse i cant code
:'(: ok
Avatar: :/
:'(: ima post this in admin forums now, k?
Avatar: ye
Avatar: thx dude
Avatar: !
:'(: np
Statement by  NFS:
NFS | Merry xmas: Okay, how do you want me to ezplain our "project"?
:'(: I don't know.
:'(: Just give us a statement
NFS | Merry xmas: Ye, I know, Avatar told me
NFS | Merry xmas: well, everything avatar said is true, i read the logs between you guys
NFS | Merry xmas: Our project was to test XJ's anti-cheat, too see if it was as good as my checker that i have today. but it turned out that he learned to read the speed just a couple of days after we submitted our demos.
NFS | Merry xmas: I don't wanna bring up the whole story from the beginning, but everything avatar told u. It's the truth, ok?
:'(: ye ok
NFS | Merry xmas: i know we gonna get permbanned
NFS | Merry xmas: im fine with that, but the reputation :/
:'(: mm :/ |
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发表于 2010-1-2 05:06:40
warnings for this time, since a lot of old demos got accepted due to the fact that LJ records weren't updated for a long long time before and therfore the demos might have been submitted before the non-steam rule got added.
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