ndR最新引退采访,谈了许多kz和人生感悟.

SiMen.beambean · 发表于 2007-4-2 10:57:00

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>ndR采访转自xtreme-jumps 采访者scary于星期日 2007/4/1(scary是xj的管理员)
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>翻译：SiMen.beambean （转载请注明出处）
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你好,我的朋友Yohan(ndR名字).采访就从介绍一下你自己给那些不认识你的人开始吧.(如果有这种人的话)
hello,如你所说我叫Yohan Gonzalvo,快18岁了.住在法国的巴黎.我有条名字叫Baiko的狗,我的兴趣是和朋友出去玩,滑板,滑雪,打篮球!我很喜欢我目前的女友.
你最近怎么了,都没有上传一个demo?
最近我都不玩了(1个月前),我卸载了steam,觉得那样很开心.的确我没有上传任何demo,但我仍然存了很多,也许迟点我会上传.
我想知道,Yohan你开始跳了有多长时间了?这次的引退有多久了?
我从2005年8月底开始玩的,大概19个月前吧.我停止玩KZ好几次了,(有2次是真的) 但我总是会在以后的日子里回来,因为大家都在激励着我...这次,我不想来一个假的引退,所以大概在一个月以前,我把steam卸载了,把和kz有关的几乎每个人的msn都删了.
Yohan,究竟是什么原因使你现在选择停止玩了?
高处不胜寒啊,我什么都知道了,什么都做到了.我几乎认识每一个人...我只想问你,问整个社区的人,在这种情况下还有什么能使你有兴趣继续玩下去呢?我老了(跳不动了),应该把位置留给新星了(比如说zocker,brian,Jurpo).
你失去玩的动机了吗?如果是的话,为什么?
在停止玩之前...是的,我失去了动机.我也不想自己变差,但是总是和zhady有着不断的竞争... 这样真的很烦人!我只会为一样事情会回来...和T3dBundy,a0ke或者tarGet的比赛.
为什么你觉得你要和zhady较劲呢?据我所记得的,你是在zhady刷了你7-8个demo左右的时候不玩的.对吗?
因为我们很相似,我们都不想输给对方.而站在对方的立场上看,如果你的demo被刷了7-8个,简直你要疯了! 由于xj的关系我和zhady关系很好,我们想使这个社区对我们有个"好关系"的印象...
我们就像好莱坞的明星那样,疯狂的坐在我们各自的电脑前玩,但那和现实生活中真正的明星没法儿比...我不明白也不知道有多少人会那样想,我也希望谁来告诉我答案!我知道自己说的太多了,但借这次采访,凭我个人的地位,我想对大家说些以前我不曾说的话.在我们受到挫折时看看社区和专业玩家是很有意思的.但那已经是另外一个历史了.
你可以接着说说,继续讲故事吧.
Hmm...最有意思的是专业玩家的举动.我们的举动都(或者大部分)像小孩子一样.在记录保持者之间总是有不停的比赛,但他们在社区里表现的很好.
我们都很虚伪!是的,我这样说,是因为我现在就是这群人中的一个.每个人都在背后偷偷的对大家讲别人的坏话!那就是我所谴责的.当我受挫折时那就像好莱坞的时事话题一样.
xj有什么小团体吗?如果有的话你是哪一组的?
当然有很多小帮派...在那里都有,但是注意:我从来没有,也绝不会概括的这样说.
有些人是不虚伪的.那是绝大部分人,活在"好莱坞世界"的人(我喜欢Hollywoodian world这个词!),有个别团体,有些是都是一个国家的,这很正常!这是由于语言的关系...
个人来说,我尽可能都融入他们!我是非常喜欢社交的,喜欢和每个人聊天,学习他们的语言和文化.我觉得那样聊天比我个人的排名更好. (个人理解就是说ndR认为,想要在社区混的好,人品和人缘关系比你的技术更重要) 主要的问题是人人都在讲别人的缺点和坏话(攻击别人)...(树大招风啊)...而我总是中立的,像战争中的无人区那样.但这个不是采访的主题.^^.
在你离开我们之前,你觉得社区怎样了?有什么背后攻击人的,不好的地方或者是有什么你怀念的.是玩家之间的友谊?还是作为世界最好的选手之类的感想?
目前,我十分高兴我不玩了!我可以正常生活了,所以我觉得最后我并不后悔.
作为高手,想忘记过去是最难的...我位于人生的转折点,我不想错过这个机会!坦白的说,我并没有什么关于世界最好玩家的感觉.
以前我想成为kz的超级明星但现在我已经不在意那些了(看透了啊,都是虚名),让别人去关心那些吧. 我现在所做的就是,少做些孩子般的事,以更成熟的眼光看待kz和kz的社区.
你觉得社区不够成熟吗?如果是的话对社区有什么影响?
Hum...那真的很难说.你知道的,我只有17岁我想我不够资格说话,我没有很多的经验我只是个青少年!但我注意到了某些事情...
在每个大的网络社区,总是有些不成熟的人!我们总是会在社区里看见他们.在你有定论之前想想我说的.就是那个结果了!成熟的人不会参加社区生活的话题,他们是被限制的一群.社区或者新人对他们也会有着消极的想法.
你是说社区都是些不成熟的小孩?按照你的归类那就是,我,faker,maxeh,MC-sk8r,soulfather等等.
我不是那个意思.你们不算.我是指那些在论坛里说一些废话,和粘贴垃圾连接地址的人.你知道的,就是对话栏里面的那些人.
你觉得录那些demo有压力吗?你觉得你周围的人,zhady和xj推动你让使你录demo吗?
是的,当你在顶峰时,你必须在你电脑上一直录,跳所有图,花所有时间...Naaah我有些夸张了,但几乎是如此.大家都在等你的很多demo,一直如此.大家都希望你刷个极限demo,或者刷回上次被刷的图.但我必须承认我的性格也是一个因素:我不想让别人刷我的demo,举例说,如果zhady刷了我10个demo,我就会想直接把他们刷回来.
你觉得作为最好选手之一的感觉怎样?应该很不错吧.
我觉得我还可以做的更好!更快的demo,更多的demo等等..对我来说没有完美,不幸的是我是个完美主义追求者.总之,我感觉很好,我收到了社区的赏识.
当你上传了不够好的demo时会怎么想?
在社区大家面前,我表现的很高兴,但我心里觉得我对自己并不满意!所以我有很多没有上传的demo(个人觉得不够好就不传了).我不想上传有失误的demo.对你问题的回答就是,我并不高兴.
当你是个顶级玩家了,录demo的第一要素是什么?是随机刷更多的图呢还是集中刷几个好点的图?
刚开始,我只想轻松的录.但最后我选择刷几个好点的图,我喜欢那样! 除了一开始,我从来没有下个那300多个demo的记录看.
在你的现实生活中你朋友知道你是象你本人那么酷的kz顶级高手吗?
在现实生活里,ndR以前现在和以后都是不存在的.Hum..我有点撒谎了.我家人知道'ndR'. 我粉丝给我的话总是使我妈妈开心,我爸爸不明白为什么我手指头可以动那么快,而我正在教我弟弟kz技巧!如果他继续玩的话,看见他进了前5名可不要惊讶哦.嗯,现实生活是现实的,虚拟生活是虚拟的,我觉得一定不要把他们搞混了.
Yohan,有你喜欢的demo吗?如果有,原因是什么.好demo的标准是什么?
当然我有我自己喜欢的demo.是loty的kz_man_madness[hard],因为他(和a0ke)是我喜欢的选手,还有就是他以惊人的旋转方式刷了这图.如果他愿意,他可以闭着眼睛跳完图!好demo的标准?Hmmmm...我认为时间并不重要.如果你跳跃方式很丑,即使把sandblock刷到5:50,那个demo也是不好的...方法>成绩.我说的方法是指旋转的方式,过渡的方式,bhop的方式,一些额外的技巧(比如说向后bhop)等等
你认为谁是表现最好的玩家?当然包括你自己.
没有人是 ;]地图的极限目前是不可能达到的,没人有技术可以在任何地图上跳的完美(除了小地图,比如说cg_coldbhop等等...).一个完美的跳跃,是包括没有任何错误,所有有可能的bhop.所有捷径,超级的速度和转折.谁可以做的到?这种玩家还没出现. 每个人都专攻自己的图,所以我觉得没人是最高的玩家.
你看了tarGet新的demo了吗?那很接近完美了,是吗?
当然了,我在我朋友的电脑上看了!我必须承认他跳的很棒,但那个demo对我没有影响.我不象其他人那样看完那么震惊.坦白说我也不知道它是否接近完美...我从2005年6月开始玩kz,在我的"跳跃生活"中看到了很多东西,但你不知道以后跳跃会怎样发展!以现在的跳跃技术来说这个demo是接近完美的.但明年或以后就不是了.
你可以超过那个记录吗?
你知道,每个人都有能力超过所有的记录的...多练习是关键!当然技术也是包括在内的,但如果你多练习的话是可以保持大部分的世界记录的...目前我没有练,在不得不停止之前...也许我可以超越,谁知道呢?
现在你停止了,那接下来干什么?
我仍然会在论坛活动的,逛逛论坛,教教菜鸟.他们喜欢教啊.我不会象以前那么积极了.但我仍在.我现在开始在cs source玩跳跃了.对我来说很有趣很新颖.在那我是无名的,没人打扰我.我是平静的...真的很享受.
好的Yohan,采访该结束了.是对kz最好的选手之一说再见的时候了.Yohan和世界上所有的跳跃选手说再见了.有你在我们周围真的很荣幸.你向我们展示了玩游戏的意义!对朋友,粉丝和敌人还有什么最后的要说吗?
首先我想感谢cxg team.(loty, donakos, Perfo, Free, Himuraken, jeflefou, milo, c_Ye, Bhaal, caps, BlaYers, DjMams, Rominou, spolix and JLeO01).很多人都是我现实中的朋友. a0ke是我喜欢的选手.和我一起分享很多的人...Scary, faker and maxeh! tarGet, omilo, rayla, zhady, brian, Z0ck3rOO7, tjubby, ichirou, sbzvnl, mxdc, simen.007, sasAna, Frei (ou pas), kimo, Gorzine, T3dbundy, oddysseus, rad0n, eXcaL, stukad, dEMolite, DHT-, soul|ftw, crush, FragGyver, JanniK, In[10]sE, MeTqLik, AvAtAr, ikki, NiconeN, Smallmuck, TheBiShOp, Tonic, mypTx, thopa, Psycho, Maxhhoz, HerloTz, @p, nipper, HoHo^, Micron, X-Ray, Lap1nou, Lolz, Np_O, anny0, REMYY, euro, Nightnoob, Playmo and Mj`... CXG, kz.CFL, KZFR, KZCN, C-ARG, Pyk.kz and INSILIO.net! 特别感谢我的官方名字,nendR! 谢谢你们所有支持我的人!也感谢Xtreme-Jumps全体工作人员.如果你们要开会,不要犹豫,叫上我!我不会bite你们的(表示亲热的咬).=) 祝你们生活愉快,不要浪费时间在这里.外面有许多更美好的事物,相信我;P 作为结束,感谢scary的采访.
祝大家轻松愉快
Yohan.
祝你也一样,我们会永远记住你的.

原文:
Hello Yohan my mate! What about you start off by introducing yourself to those who might not know you? (If such people exist) Hello hello, as you said I'm Yohan Gonzalvo, almost 18, I live in Paris, France. I've got a dog who's called Baïko, I enjoy hang out with friends, skateboarding, snowboarding and playing basketball! And I love my current girlfriend. What have you been up to lately? You haven't submitted any demos? Recently I totally stopped climbing (1 month ago now), Steam is uninstalled and I'm happy like that! Indeed I haven't submitted any demo, I've still got many of them but I'll send them later, maybe. I wonder Yohan, how long have you been jumping, and how long has this retirement been under it's way? I began jumping at the end of August 2005, 19 months ago if you prefer! I chose to stop kz several times (2 times to be exact) but I've always been back after some days because everybody tried to motivate me... This time, I didn't want a fake retirement, I uninstalled Steam and I deleted almost everybody in MSN (only climbers of course :p), It was 1 month ago. Yohan, why the hell did you choose to stop now? I think I was at the top, I saw everything, I did everything, I knew almost everybody... I just want to ask you, the comunity also, tell me what's the interest to continue in these conditions? I was too old, and I had to let the recording place to the rising stars (zocker, brian, Jurpo for example). Did you loose motivation? And if so why? Before stopping... Yes I lost my motivation too. I don't want to be bad but there was always this fight against zhady, zhady, zhady, zhady... It became really annoying! I would be back only for one thing... A match against T3dBundy, a0ke or tarGet <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie5.gif"> . Why do you think there was this fight between you and zhady? As I remember it, it goes back from zhady beating 7-8 of your demos or something, right? Because we're just similar. We don't want to lose and even if we say the opposite, when the other releases 7-8 demos of you it makes us crazy! We're nice between us just because of the community, we want that this community has a "good image" of us... It's crazy because we act like Holywood stars, we're only players in front of our computer, there is nothing comparable to the real life stars... I don't understand why and how as many people think like that, I would also like that one answers me! I know I'm talking too much, but by this interview I want to say all that I wasn't able to say before because of my status. The community's behavior and the pr0cLimBer's one are really funny if we take a set-back, but it is another history. You should be allowed to say anything, please continue on the story. Hum... The funny things are especially the proClimber's behavior. We all (or almost) act like kids. There is a constant war between the recorders, but they're always nice in front of the community... We are hypocritical! Yes, I say 'we' because I belong (belonged now) to this group. Everybody tells bad things about everybody, but in the back of people! That's what I'm denouncing, when I take a set-back that looks like the Hollywood topicality. Are there groups then? And if so which group were you in? Of course there are many groups... As everywhere, but warning: I've never generalized and I won't, some guys aren't hypocriticals! There is the main group, the "Hollywoodian world" (I love this phrase <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie3.gif"> ) and some littles groups. Some of them are by country, and this is normal! It's because of the language... Personally, I try to be in all of them! I'm very sociable and I like to chat with everybody, learn about this country and their culture. I think I've much luck to be able to speak easily with the community, particularly because of my status. The main problem is that everybody tells me bad things/insults about another guys... And I'm always in the middle, like a no-man's land during a war. But that isn't the topic of this interview ^^. How are your feelings about the community now just before you leave us? Is it backstapping and evil or is there something you'll miss? The friendship between players, the feeling of being one of the best in the world, at something? Currently, I'm really happy to have stopped climbing! I can live normally now and I want to profit from the life, my family, my girlfriend, my future... I feel released. I admit that I like this community, y'all funny guys ;] I'll surely miss something, but it's like that. I made the choice to stop therefore I assume until the end without regretting. Hardest being to advance whilst trying not to think of the past... I'm at a turning point of my life and I don't want to miss it! Frankly, I don't give a fuck about the feeling of being one of the best in the world (if it's true), I wanted to be a climbing superstar when I began recording but now I don't care, people can think how they want. Try to have a less childish and more mature glance on the kz and his community: that's what I do now. Do you think the community is immature? If so what consequenses does it have on the community? Hum... It's really hard to say a thing like that you know: I'm 17 and I think I cannot judge, I haven't got much experiment and I'm still a teenager! But I noticed something... In each large internet community, there are alot of immature people! Immature ones are often those wich we see all the time. Just think about what I've said before and make your own opinion. Of course there are consequenses! The mature people don't want to take part in the community's life, or they remain in a restricted group. The community can also have a negative image by the public and/or the newcommers. You know that you just answered that the comunity is run by immature kids right? That is, faker, me, maxeh, MC-sk8r, soulfather and so on you take under that category I didn't say that the staff doesn't count I'm thinking about some guys who are always saying bullshits, links or <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/heart.png"> baba <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/heart.png"> bubu etc etc you know who I mean many guys just look at the chatbox Did you feel somekind of pressure by making all of those demos, did you feel the people around you, zhady and the community pushed you into doing it? Yeah, when you want to be at the top, you must record always, everywhere, everytime you're on your computer... Naaaah I exaggerate but it's almost that. Everybody awaits many demos of you, and always. They always hope that you'll pwn a über demo, or take back all those which were taken in the last demo release! Everyday you receive many Query or mails about recording. But I must admit that my personality is also a factor: I don't want to let my demos to somebody. For example, if zhady takes 10 demos of me, I'll want to take them back directly. But how did it feel when you realized that you were one of the best jumper who have ever played? It must have been nice Haha it's funny because I never felt as 'one of the best jumper', believe me, but I don't want to act like a superstar: I was a player in front of his computer... I never succeeded to realize. Of course that's nevertheless well, everybody is your 'friend' etc etc <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie3.gif"> . But you were one of the best, if not the best - And how did it feel to have acomplished as much as you could, being on the top. I think I will have been able better to make! Better times, more demos etc... Nothing is enough with me, unfortunately I'm a perfectionist <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie3.gif"> . Anyways, I feel good, I've a recognition from the community. What happened when you had a release that wasn't so good? In front of the community, I was happy for the release, but inside me I thought it wasn't enough! I've got maaaaaaany unreleased demo because of that, I didn't want to send them coz' of the bad times. For reply to your question, I wasn't glad. When you were at your top point as a jumper, what was your first priority in making records, was it many records on random maps or good records on a few good maps? At the beginning, I just wanted to take an easy record, but at the end I prefered to take only good maps, which I like! Except at the beginning, I never searched to pwn 300xxx records. In your real life did your friends know you as the pro KZ jumper or as the cool person Yohan? In the real life, ndR didn't exist, ndR doesn't exist and ndR won't exist. Hum... I'm lying a little bit, my family knows about 'ndR' Fan's messages always make my mother laugh, my father cannot understand how I can move my fingers so fast and I'm teaching the art of climbing to my brother! If he continues, don't be astonished to see him in the top5. Well, Real life is real life, virtual life is virtual life, I think I musn't mix them. Yohan, do you have a favourite demo? If so, why? And what is the critirias for a good demo? Of course I have a favourite demo! It is kz_man_madness[hard] by loty, because he's one of my favourite jumper (with a0ke), and because he just destroyed the map with an awesome (strafe) style! He could finish the map with closed eyes if he would like! A good demo? Hmmmm... The time doesn't count in my opinion. With a shitty/ugly style, even if you pwn kz_sandblock in 5:50, the demo won't be good... Style > Performance. When I'm talking about the 'Style', I mean strafe style, transition style, bhop style, little extra tricks (a backward bhop for example) etc etc Who do you think is the best performance jumper? Inclusive yourself ofcourse Nobody ;] The maps limit is currently unreachable, nobody is enough skilled to make the perfect run on any map (except little maps, cg_coldbhop etc...). In a perfect run, there are no mistakes, all possible bhops, all shortcuts, über speed and über transitions. Who jumps like that? This jumper doesn't exist yet. Each one specializes on its maps, that's why I don't see who is the best performance jumper <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie1.gif"> Have you seen the new tarGet demo? That must be close to perfect? Isn't it? Of course I've seen it on a friend's computer! I must admit that his run is really nice, but the demos don't make me any more effect, I wasn't shocked like many people when I saw his demo. Frankly I don't know if it's close to be perfect... I started kz at the middle of 2005, I've seen many things in my "climber-life" and you never know how jumping will evolve! Close to perfect with current techniques, but it won't next year or later. Would you be able to beat that record? Everybody is able to pwn all of the World Records you know... Training is the key! Climbing skill counts of course, but with training you can pwn almost all of the World Records... Currently I'm not, before to have stopped... With a training, maybe. Who knows? Now that you stopped, what will you do now? I will stay active, at the website and IRC! I like to help the noobs and they like that <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie5.gif"> I will surely not be as active as before, but I'll stay around. I also started jumping On CounterStrike:Source, it's so funny to be a newbie! I am unknown, nobody disturbs me, I'm quiet... Really enjoyable <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie5.gif"> Okay Yohan, I think it's time that we end this interview. It's time to say goodbye to clearly one of the best jumper the KZ world have ever seen, if not the best. Goodbye Yohan from all jumpers around the world, it has truely been an honor to have you around, showing how the game is ment to be played! Any last words to fans, friends or foes? First of all, I want to kiss a special girl who will recognize herself... A BIG UP to the CXG Team (loty, donakos, Perfo, Free, Himuraken, jeflefou, milo, c_Ye, Bhaal, caps, BlaYers, DjMams, Rominou, spolix and JLeO01), many of them became real friends! a0ke because you're still my favourite jumper. THREE special dudes with who I shared so many things... Scary, faker and maxeh! tarGet, omilo, rayla, zhady, brian, Z0ck3rOO7, tjubby, ichirou, sbzvnl, mxdc, simen.007, sasAna, Frei (ou pas), kimo, Gorzine, T3dbundy, oddysseus, rad0n, eXcaL, stukad, dEMolite, DHT-, soul|ftw, crush, FragGyver, JanniK, In[10]sE, MeTqLik, AvAtAr, ikki, NiconeN, Smallmuck, TheBiShOp, Tonic, mypTx, thopa, Psycho, Maxhhoz, HerloTz, @p, nipper, HoHo^, Micron, X-Ray, Lap1nou, Lolz, Np_O, anny0, REMYY, euro, Nightnoob, Playmo and Mj`... CXG, kz.CFL, KZFR, KZCN, C-ARG, Pyk.kz and INSILIO.net! Special sentence for my official fake, nendR! (I've surely forgot many guys, I hope you'll excuse me <IMG src="http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_images/emoticons/smilie3.gif"> ) Thank you to all those which supported me! I'd also like to thank the Xtreme-Jumps Staff to have integrated me while some months! If you want some councils, don't hesitate and come on! I won't bite you =) Live your life and don't waste your time in these bullshits! There are so many beautiful things outside, believe me ;P And to finish, thank you scary for this interview. Take it easy! Yohan. You are welcome mate, you’ll be remembered forever.

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mordy · 发表于 2007-4-2 11:01:00

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Simen.Leos · 发表于 2007-4-2 11:46:00

凳子我也不放过

SiMen.0027`` · 发表于 2007-4-2 12:21:00

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>我现在开始在cs source玩跳跃了.对我来说很有趣很新颖.

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>CSS怎么跳………………

W493035279 · 发表于 2007-4-2 12:42:00

哈哈，肯定有办法跳~~~

SiMen.Red^apple · 发表于 2007-4-2 15:10:00

没1.6那么好玩了

SiMen.NaMe · 发表于 2007-4-2 15:40:00

让NDR教你

Allen.R@97Club · 发表于 2007-4-2 16:37:00

可惜哇```[em07]

o_O · 发表于 2007-4-2 17:03:00

愚人节的玩笑

SiMen.0027`` · 发表于 2007-4-2 17:39:00

<DIV class=quote twffan="done">以下是引用o_O在2007-4-2 17:03:00的发言： 愚人节的玩笑</DIV>
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