找回密码
 立即注册

QQ登录

只需一步,快速开始

查看: 868|回复: 6

【XJ首页采访】PU9maker在黑暗的大宅里撞见……

[复制链接]

该用户从未签到

发表于 2014-9-12 00:03:42 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
ShoCk: Hello, PU9maker, let's start with the casual presentation. Who are you?
你好pubmaker,先从非正式的自我介绍开始吧

PU9maker: Hi ShoCk and everyone ! My name is Ondrej Kouba, 24 years old boy who lives in the heart of Europe - Czech Republic. 9 months ago I started to work at the Police department. In my spare time I like to work out. Usually on Monday - Wednesday - Friday. Some call me crazy because I eat only a very healthy food. Esp. colleagues at work I'm also interested in physics, psychology and human behaviour overall. And as you know I still enjoy CS 1.6 and mostly the thing Patrick "KreedZ" Wright started in 2003-2004
你好shock以及各位,我的名字是Ondrej Kouba,现年24岁住在欧洲的心脏——捷克。9个月前我开始在警察局工作,闲暇时间我喜欢去锻炼,一般在周一、周三和周五。有些人,尤其是我的同事都劝我不要放弃治疗,因为我只吃非常健康的食物。我也很喜欢物理学、心理学以及人类行为学。正如你所知道我目前仍在玩1.6,03-04年开始玩的KZ

ShoCk: Unexpectedly. Do you mean physics of cs engine, psychology and behaviour of the ct model overall?
出人意料啊!你是指cs引擎和心理学以及ct模型的行为吗?

PU9maker: Haha no, I mean the study of natural things around us. Psychology of human mind and human behaviour such as body language, behavior in extreme situations.. :p
哈哈当然不是,我指的是现实里的东西,像身体语言啊、极端状况下的行为啊之类的。

ShoCk: Yeah, I see. On a more serious note. Interesting thing to study man. Do you need if for your job or for self-development? Being a part of police department.. that sounds badass. What exactly do you do?
啊……认真地说研究人的确是件有意思的事情。你是因为工作需要还是自我培养才学这些呢?作为局子里的人……听起来挺吊啊,你到底做些什么呢?

PU9maker: Mostly just for self-development but knowing potential human behaviour in stressed situations can be very helpful esp when you work as a Police officer, hell, might even save your life. There's one thing  shNz told me once. I'll quote Nowadays, the world is filled with ambitious young men, just like myself, and you know, I have to compete on every level in order to be successful in the future. That's what I believe in, too. It is indeed very interesting but paradoxically not many people are interested in it. Its prolly caused by the fact that people don't understand it. ( I understand it only on a very very superficial level ) Your IQ has to be very high to understand it deeply ). It's not so badass as It might seem to you. I work in a small and "sleepy" city where nothing very dangerous happen usually.
大多数是个人兴趣啦,不过知道人的潜在行为对于警察这份工作还是很有用的,甚至能拯救自己的生命。shnz曾经跟我说过,这个世界上充满了野心勃勃的年轻人,就像我自己,你知道的,我必须在每个时候都要奋力竞争来为自己创造光明的未来。这也是我的信条。尽管我所学的听上去很有意思,但矛盾的是很少有人感兴趣,大概是因为很少有人了解的缘故吧。我也只是从很浅显的角度去了解罢了,学习这些需要极高的智商。这份工作不咋地,不过是在一座沉睡的小镇上工作罢了,没有什么很危险的事情发生过

There is one story that happened to me Some weeks ago when I was serving night shift. And around 10 PM. Old lady on the street asked me and my colleague if we can try to get in touch her friend who doesnt answer her calls, she havent heard of him for a week or so. She told us the address of her friend. We got there in like 5 mins. It was a big house but it had to be a very old house. It looked more like a ruins. So we tried to ring the bell, nothing. We "screamed" Anybody home ? etc.. Still nothing. That old lady had a emergency key from this house. So we stepped in. It was quite scary to be honest.. Weird feeling you know.. Electricity was turned off. So we only had our flashlights. It looked normal in there tho. No signs of breaking in, nothing.. Then we went up to the attic. It looked like a library there. Hundreds, maybe even thousands of books. I was going alongside with my colleague and suddenly my colleague "bumped" into something.. it was a body hanging on a rope. I'll never forget this experience. It was.. huh.. The poor man hang himself cuz he had money issues and severe depressions. So he decided to end his life.
几周前我遇到了一件事,当时我在上夜班,大概是晚上10点左右,街上一位年迈的女士问我和我的同事能不能帮她联系到她的朋友,他们已经几周没联系了。她告诉了他朋友的地址。我们走了5分钟就到了。那是一间大宅子,很老,甚至有点遗迹的样子。我们试着按响门铃,但是什么也没发生,然后我们大声喊:有人在家吗?,还是一无所获。那位女士拿出了紧急钥匙,我们终于进入了……是的,这听起来渗得慌,房子里没有电,我们打开了手电筒。房子看起来还算正常,没有闯入的痕迹。然后我们上了阁楼,看起来这里是间藏书室,里面有几百甚至几千本书。正当我和同事继续前行的时候……我的同事忽然撞到了东西!那是具尸体!
好吧,这个可怜的穷小子手头很紧,心里很压抑,于是就这样草草了结一生了

ShoCk: Wow. That's a real horror. You knew what you were going for, right? Any regrets seeing this in that relatively young age?
我勒个去这真的很吓人。当时你知道你在做什么吗?你后悔你走过的路吗?

PU9maker: No, no regrets at all. I like this job. Sometimes it's a real horror as you said but I love adrenaline. Firemen have more difficult work. Take a car accident for example. babies, kids.. This is a real horror. No wonder they have an appointments with a psychologist quite often.
不,完全不,我喜欢这份工作。也许有时候这份工作真的很吓人,但是我就喜欢肾上腺素沸腾的感觉。消防员的工作比我们复杂多了,他们可能要处理车祸现场、小孩……这才是真正恐怖的。毫无疑问他们经常去看心理医生

ShoCk: Yeah but on the other hand your job has a wider range of unexpected dangerous situations. It really takes balls to be into it, my appreciation. You'll save not one life, I'm convinced. You must be stressing out a lot because of these things. I guess this is where workout and kz step in to relieve some tention?
是的,但是你的工作会遇到更多种类的无法预见的事情,这真的很麻烦,我表达敬意。你可能会拯救不止一个人的性命,我相信。面对这些事情,你压力会很大吧?我猜kz和锻炼就是这样进入你的生活的吧?

PU9maker: It can be very stressful sometimes but humans are amazing creatures and they get used to almost anything. The stress accumulates whether I want or not and that's when workout and kz are stepping in, exactly. Workout is now a inseparable part of my life cuz I always clean my head while working out and I feel really relaxed afterwards. KZ is also fun but you know it can be stressful too sometimes Esp while recording haha.
做这些事情有时候的确压力山大,但是人类是个神奇的物种,我们能适应任何事情。不管我愿不愿意,压力永远都在堆积。然后我就开始锻炼,还有玩kz。说真的,锻炼是我生活中不可分割的一部分了,每次散步时我都能放松我的但脑,kz有时候也能,不过有时候也会制造压力,比如刷图的时候……

ShoCk: Yeah it really helps, both of them. Turning on the music, launching your favourite game and letting the flow go through you. And considering the dedication you come with, recording must be one of a few stressful parts since you're basically giving all of yourself to this, coming up with ideas, maintaining the whole vibe and all that. Would you consider it to be your second life perchance? Or what else is it for you, your dedication doesn't seem to ever go away.
是的,两样都很有用。打开音乐,玩最喜欢的游戏,让一切顺起来。考虑到你对kz的奉献,录制demo当然是最有压力的时候了……你把它当作你的第二人生吗?还是别的东西?

PU9maker: I dont record as much as I did before. Mostly because recording is really hard for me and the passion is also fading away. I started playing KZ seriously 2 years ago, before that I was only longjumping. And I really cant compete with other players who play from 2006-2010. I have to put incredible amount of effort to beat one single demo. When I entered to XJ I had a dream. Beat 273 DCJ block and beat a World Record. And I did. Those are the best memories from my whole KZ carrer. I will never forget the feeling when I pressed "e" button on kz_sk_proclimbing and saw the new WR. And the same goes for 273 block. XJ means alot to me. That's why I put effort in it. Coming with ideas is harder day by day because everything has its limits. So does XJ. We are inevitably approaching the point where 1.6 will die. All we can do now is to try to enjoy the few remaining months/years. And when you will look back in 5-10 years. You'll think to yourself Damn. Those were the times!
我没以前那样录得频繁了。主要是录demo太难,我也没那个激情了。我真正开始玩kz是2年前,在那之前我执着于长跳。当时我根本没法和来自06到10年的玩家竞争。我必须付出大量的努力才能刷掉一张图。当我进入xj时我心里就产生了一个愿望:上dcj273板子,然后刷wr。我做到了。这是我整个kz生涯中最美好的记忆,我永远不会忘记当时在kz_sk_proclimbing这图,我按下e结束计时创造新wr的时候,dcj273板子也一样。xj对我来说意味着很多东西,这也是我为之付出的原因。创造一天比一天难,一位凡事都有个极限,xj也一样,我们不可避免的遇到了1.6消亡的时候。我们也许只能再慢慢享受最后的几个月或者几年了。当你回想过去那5-10年的时候,你会想,啊,当时真是个好时候啊!

ShoCk: Others would say the other way around "Damn.. Why did I have to spend so many years in vain", not me though and I like the way of your thinking To be honest, I've watched all of the demos you lately recorded and you look really confident, you have the flow that others strive to get. You appear to have a good control over your model so it comes off weird, maybe you get nervous or what do you think is the cause for your self-inconfidence?
其他人会说,啊!当时我他妈在白费啥力气啊?不仅是我。我喜欢你思考的方式,说实话,我已经看了你最近录制的一些demo,你看起来十分自信,你有那种其他人都想要的节奏,你总是能自如地控制自己的行动,也许实际上你很紧张,不过,是什么造成了你这种不自信呢?

PU9maker: I only improved my previous records. It was easy because in the past I spent many many hours on those maps. As you can see all my records are quite long maps with a small amount of bhops. Because bhop is my weakness. And there are not many maps that suit me. I only get nervous on the very end of a map. Like 15-20 seconds before the finish but yea, its really weird how much time you can lose in a 15-20 seconds just cuz of nervosity, fascinating. I still dont know many things about HL engine. If you want to become good at anything you have to understand it. maybe Ill take a break from KZ for some time, it usually helps to get some motivation back.
我只刷自己的图。这很容易,因为每次我都要花几个小时来研究地图。正如你所看到了,我的wr都是很大的地图配上少许连跳,因为连跳是我的弱项。不是很多图都适合我。我只会在地图结尾紧张。像demo结束前的15-20秒左右,这真的很奇怪你到底能在最后的15-20秒里浪费多少时间,就因为紧张。我对hl引擎了解不深,如果你需要了解一切,那么最好是去了解下。也许我要离开kz一会儿,这能让我重获些激情。

ShoCk: For me it's harder to record long maps rather short/medium, so I guess it's about this and that. You're probably more consistent than rapid even though the map doesn't require long bhop combos, and someone else is the other way around. And yeah from my own experience, I confirm that, take a break if nothing works, don't strain yourself super hard, it will come back twice effective as it works that way for me. Let's talk about yourself as a COO. How did that happen, how does it feel? Has anything changed at all?
对我来说刷大图比刷小图难。你跳图更崇尚稳健,即使是地图不需要长连跳,有的人却是相反的路,我就是这样的。我也确信如果诸事不顺,就休息一下,这样能获得两倍的活力。我们来讲下你COO的事情吧,那是怎么发生的?感觉如何?有什么改变的吗?

PU9maker: Some months ago CyclopP sent me a message saying something like.. "Hey, I really appreciate how active you are, thanks to you XJ is a better place and that's what we need" Then he explained to me that PsYxOpAt is very busy with his real life obligations and wont be able to be COO anymore due to a lack of his free time. So we talked about what COO position would actually mean to me. I wasn't completely sure if im ready for this position and CyclopP somehow find that out from my answers. Our conversation ended up without a direct "YES" or "NO" so I guess we both were kind of confused haha. Anyway they started to look somewhere else. Coppenst seemed like a good candidate but when I find out, I felt kind of touched because they made him COO without telling me. Later on It was all explained to me. Long story short : they thought I'm already very busy with all the stuff im doing for XJ and didnt want to put more burden on my shoulders. Actually being a COO is not that hard if you have a good team of people.
Well, for me basically nothing has changed.
几个月前CyclopP找到我,说什么……“我真的很感谢你如此的活跃,让xj进步了许多,这正是我们所需要的”。然后他向我解释道PsYxOpAt最近很忙,没法再担任COO了。然后我们谈论了让我当COO的事情。我真的不能百分百确信我做好了准备,CyclopP似乎也察觉到了。我们的谈话最后以直接的Yes or No结束,我猜我们俩都很迷惑了哈哈。不管怎样,他们开始寻找别人。Coppenst看起来也是个不错的候选人,但是最后我发现他们内定了他当COO。后来一切清楚了,他们认为我已经很忙了,就算了。实际上当个COO没那么难,只要你有个好的团队。
这个职位对我来说没啥改变我的

ShoCk: So, there isn't any more work than you've had before you became a COO? Not that you're doing nothing of course but isn't there some specific things that COO should be taking care of?
所以说……你当上COO后也没多多少事情?难道就没有啥COO专门的事情要做吗?

PU9maker: Maybe just that I coordinate our staff, trying to improve current ways etc. but I was doing that even before I became COO :) I recruited some guys to our map team.
By that move I hope for more frequent map releases.  Keo,  Kicius,  eLiTe.. they all are experienced mappers with a good sense for this. Also frequent map releases = frequent WR releases = more activity overall. Which is my goal - to keep XJ active. Other than that I try to come up with new ideas, something that could attract players but its very very difficult to be honest. Thats how I would sum up my function as a COO.
也许我只是和现在的员工合作,试着延续现在的工作吧。但是我在成为COO之前就已经在干了。我为咱们的地图团队增添了成员,希望能加快地图更新的频率。Keo、Kicius和eLiTe他们都是经验丰富的地图制作人啊。当然,频繁的地图更新等于频繁的wr更新,这都是为了我的目标——让XJ一直活跃。除了这些,我还一直在想些新点子来吸引更多的玩家,但是这真的很难。

ShoCk: I can imagine. Map and WR releases.. two essential things for keeping the life in the community. There are quite a few side projects going on on the front page and I could say that's enough of the material to keep people attracted (at least for me). However, knowing you and your ideas, perhaps you have something else to share regarding new things coming up on XJ?
我能想象。地图和wr更新是xj社会的基本组成部分。不过xj上也有些其他的活动,对我来说那些活动就足以吸引我了。看了你的话,我觉得你大概还有其他的东西要分享?

PU9maker: There's one thing I've got in mind for a few months already. I named it KZ BOOK. The main idea is to collect all the important and memorable events from KZ history from the very beginning when Kreedz built his first kz map, first kz movies, when XJ started, famous battles such as ndR vs zhady, Evolutuion of KZ/XJ 2003-2014 and so on and make literally an online book about KZ. I realize its kind of crazy but one can have a dream, right ? :)
几个月前我就有这个想法了,我管它叫KZ百科。主要是收集kz历史上的重要事件,从kz诞生开始,记录第一张地图、第一部kz视频、xj的创建还有过去著名的对决像ndR和zhady、03年到14年kz的变革等等。也许这很疯狂,但至少能有个梦想呗

ShoCk: To say the least of it.. well I don't know what you're smoking man but if it's ever going to happen, it will be a bedtime story for my children. Somehow, I hear it increasingly with each passing day how people are obsessed with the "good old times". Sometimes you just think people live in the past. Sorry for inserting my own opinion, but that's even getting annoying sometimes *mad*. Are you a supporter of this?
至少……好吧,如果这个真的有,对我来说就是个睡前故事吧。实际上,老玩家回顾过去的美好时光的事情越来越多了,有时候让人觉得他们甚至是活在过去。抱歉说出这样的观点……但是真的有点烦,你也是支持者吗?

PU9maker: haha I can see you telling a bedtime story to your children. So kids, Once Upon a Time someone pressed the jump button. And his name was.. Kreedz. I wouldn't say I'm a supporter of those good old times but I certainly would love to come back there. I missed the golden era of kz in 2007-2010.brian, KeltA, koukouz, Chasquido, novice, spr1n, Flibo, puppetz and others. Those were the best times as it seems so for me it's understandable that people like to talk about these "good old times". Although, it's indeed annoying to see people who have probably no idea how it was back then talking about those times.
哈哈我可以想象你给孩子讲睡前故事的样子。好吧孩子,曾经有座山,山里有座庙,庙里有个kreedz按了跳跃键……我不是什么美好时光的支持者,我只是很向往那个时候,我错过了07年到10年kz的黄金时间,那时候有brian、kelta、koukouz、chasquido、novice、spr1n、flibo、puppetz等等,在我看来那可是最美好的时候了,对于我来说那些人是完全可以理解的。看到那些不了解过去的人谈论那个时代真的很恼人。

ShoCk: Great to know that there's someone who's sharing my opinion :) So, switching right on to the most sensational news of this year. How do you feel about XJ and kzmod/csgo being parts of XJ? I heard that cs 1.6 will be no longer getting the attention it have always had but instead all focus will be concentrated towards these two games. Is there any exaggeration about it?
很高兴能找到同类啊!我们现在来讲讲时事热点吧。你怎么看kzmod和csgo加入kz的阵营?我听说1.6将不能再吸引更多的注意,以后我们将更专注于这两个游戏,真的吗?

PU9maker: To be perfectly honest with you im not very excited about it BUT this is only my personal opinion. Im a guy who doesn't like changes. On the other hand I will do what's the best for XJ community and if kzmod/ cg:go kz is what community wants, I will respect it. I believe many people are looking forward to it. Raptor put incredible amount of time and effort into KZ-MOD and the game does deserve big appreciation. About CS 1.6, nothing lasts forever, and Im almost sure these two new mods will put 1.6 to shadow. How?ever its too soon to make any assumptions. Let's wait and see.
说实话我并不怎么兴奋,当然这只是我的个人观点。我是个保守的人,我不喜欢改变。另一方面我是肯定会尽力做对xj好的事情,如果kzmod和csgokz是xj需要的,那就做吧。我相信有很多人都期待这些,Raptor在kzmod上付出了许多,他值得为此受到尊重,关于cs1.6,真的没啥好说的,我基本确信kzmod和csgokz将会让1.6进棺材。等着看吧

ShoCk: That's so true, Raptor invested a lot of efforts into the development of the game and putting it next to csgo was exceedingly inappropriate of me as I see now. We're yet to discover the final build of 2.0 so it's a bit early to judge indeed, although I feel like it's a great game as of even now. However, talking of csgo, an already built game that offers you gameplay today. Have you tried kz in it yet? From the videos it looks weird, but weird isn't always bad right?
是的,Raptor付出了太多,把他的成果放在csgo后面对我来说真是太不应该了。现在kzmod2.0的最终版还在制作,现在去评论为时尚早。但是我还是觉得这是个伟大的游戏。至于csgo,一个已经完成的游戏,你试过在里面玩过跳跃吗,从视频上看,里面的跳跃很奇葩,但这并不意味着坏,不是吗?

PU9maker: I did. And I didnt like it. I really dont like the physics there for KZ. For me its very uncomfortable. Ofc, the graphics cant measure with 1.6 but still, its not for me. Raptor did one crucial thing in KZ mod - a 1.6 physics. Which I'm really glad for. 1.6 movements is what makes KZ so special and enjoyable. I think no other game can beat this feeling when it comes to KZ.
我跳过,真的不爽,一点不喜欢那个引擎,一点都不舒服,画面再美也不适合我。Raptor在kzmod里做了件神奇的事情——引入1.6物理系统,我真的很佩服他。1.6的物理系统让kz变得独特和好玩。我想没有其他游戏有类似的感觉了吧。

ShoCk: True to your thing =D How do you feel about general behaviour of XJ? Would you like to see people act differently maybe or you like it the way it is?
你说的太对了我给你32个赞!你对最近XJ的表现感觉如何?

PU9maker: heh, I'm pretty sure you already know the answer. However lets elaborate it anyway. I'm not completely sure if im the guy who can judge other members because I acted like a dick too. But if we take a look at the community as a whole its really toxic now. Hatred, insults, humiliation is a daily routine on XJ. Its a paradox actually. When kz started most of the players were just a little kids who acted more mature than the 'adult' players today. 2005 was a different year in many aspects. People were nicer to each other overall, everyone tried to help each other. There are still nice people on XJ but not as many as it used to be.哈哈,我想你已经知道答案了。我并不确信我是那个能够评判别人的人,因为我自己也很逗逼……但是我想说整个社区都像中了毒一样,仇恨,辱骂,耻辱天天上演。kz开始的时候大多数玩家都是比成年人更成熟的孩子们。2005年是一个完全不同的世界。人们更友善,每个人都在互相帮助。现在也有这样的好人,但是少了很多

ShoCk: Well many of the times yeah but there's still some savvy left out there in my opinion. Earlier, not really long ago, any insult within the site would most likely get you punished. There were many complaints regarding strict censorship in these times and my take is new management heard XJ and this is where it has led us. Would you rather stick to the old politics or you would give people more freedom but alongside with it more indecent but active community?
好吧的确很多冲突在上演,但是理解仍然存在,我是这么看的。不久前,任何的辱骂都会带来秒封。许多人都在抱怨如此严格的审查制度。你我现在新上任,你是觉得坚持严格的制度还是给大家多一点自由呢?

PU9maker: I would rather stick to the old politics. It worked just fine. There has to be some order, otherwise people will act like a loose cannon. Esp in an online community. I will have to discuss this with other admins but I think its needed. Maybe this is the key how to restore friendlier community
还是严格点好,这制度目前挺不错的。论坛里该有点规则,不然所有人都会成为我行我素的人,尤其是在网上。我会和管理员们说的,也许这是维持社区友好环境的关键

ShoCk: Keep it fun. Well, last question, actually two, before we go quickies. Any estimated date on where to expect XJ servers and revival of weekly cups? :)
还有让论坛继续有趣。最后一个问题,现在有关于xj服务器和每周杯赛的时间表吗?

PU9maker: I dont know whats the problem with XJ server and why they are offline for such a long time. Such things should not happen on an official KZ community. I will have to ask Psyxopat, or OddYsseus about it. AlthoughStanimir Dimitrov wrote ...
I can put a server page with a search option where people can submit their servers like kz-endo, nobkz and suchThis could be a solution if we won't get our official servers. Regarding weekly cups - as you know when its summer people have usually other interests than sitting in front of their computers. So the activity is low but we are planning to revive them in ~October. Im really looking forward to it. Tidalwave is ready to sream too. So I guess we will have some fun again ;p
我不知道xj服务器除了什么问题,这样的事情怎么可以发生呢?我会问Psyxopat或者OddYsseus的,尽管Stanimir Dimitrov说我可以提供一个服务器列表页,列举各个社区的kz服务器。关于每周杯赛,你知道在暑假人们一般都关心其他的事情,而不是坐在电脑前撸。不过现在我们可以继续搞了,10月,大概能吧。

ShoCk: Alright, sorry if my questions were a little provoking, I promise it won't happen in the quickies. You ready? =D
好的,如果我的问题有点冲,我道歉,我不会在快速问答里问的

PU9maker: haha. shoot. I always wanted to answer these
没事来吧

ShoCk: Abroad or home?
出国还是家里蹲?

PU9maker: Home sweet Home
家里趴

ShoCk: Favourite music genre?
最喜欢的音乐流派?

PU9maker: I dont have one. I listen to classical music, chillstep, pop, rock..
没有,我什么都听,什么古典啊、流行啊、摇滚啊……

ShoCk: Do you like to prove points?
你想要证明什么吗?

PU9maker: I see what you did there
我猜到你做过啥了

ShoCk: Ok sorry for this one, I promised =D Best friend or girlfriend?
好吧下一个问题,最好的朋友还是女朋友?

PU9maker: haha. If your girlfriend is also your best friend, thats the best combo
我希望女朋友是最好的朋友

ShoCk: Ahh nice trick you did there! Interview or being interviewed?
好回答!采访还是被采访?

PU9maker: I did many interviews. And I really enjoyed being interviewed so I choose being interviewed.
被采访,我采访的人太多了
  • TA的每日心情
    郁闷
    4 天前
  • 签到天数: 1 天

    [LV.1]初来乍到

    发表于 2014-9-12 08:15:50 | 显示全部楼层
    辛苦了                     
    回复 鲜花 鸡蛋

    使用道具 举报

    该用户从未签到

    发表于 2014-9-12 09:14:49 | 显示全部楼层
    话说回帖的都没看完所有字
    回复 鲜花 鸡蛋

    使用道具 举报

    该用户从未签到

    发表于 2014-9-12 10:41:59 | 显示全部楼层
    我基本确信kzmod和csgokz将会让1.6进棺材。等着看吧
    回复 鲜花 鸡蛋

    使用道具 举报

    该用户从未签到

    发表于 2014-9-12 17:16:45 | 显示全部楼层
    期待kzmod2.0 最终版!
    回复 鲜花 鸡蛋

    使用道具 举报

    该用户从未签到

    发表于 2014-9-12 18:17:28 | 显示全部楼层
    看起来好屌
    回复 鲜花 鸡蛋

    使用道具 举报

    该用户从未签到

    发表于 2014-9-15 15:00:58 | 显示全部楼层
    蹩脚的翻译
    回复 鲜花 鸡蛋

    使用道具 举报

    您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 立即注册

    本版积分规则

    快速回复 返回顶部 返回列表